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polly papercut
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Posted - 2014.06.26 17:20:00 -
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Plex prices going any higher than they currently are will have a huge downward spiral on this game.
Imo it is almost at a breaking point now. I know the population changes seasonally but I feel I am seeing less players online than ever before.
I play late night est (past 12am) and recently I have seen the numbers of online people as low at 17,000. In the almost 5 years on playing EVE I can not remember seeing numbers this low. The few times I log on during the day and correct me if I am wrong here but I rarely see numbers over 40,000. I can remember seeing upwards of 27-28k overnight and high 40s low 50s in prime time.
Minus some special event like EVE's tenth year anniversary and people wanting there name on the monument when numbers spiked a few times, I feel the over all online user total has somewhat decreased.
Now how much of it can you attribute to plex prices being up is hard to calculate.
BUT I can say for certain it has had an effect I know I personally have gone from 4 accounts to 2 as a direct result of higher plex prices. I also have some rl friends who have dropped 1-2 accounts also based on plex prices.
While it is a very small research group as I do not have access to how many accounts are active or inactive I know of 15 accounts that have gone inactive as a direct result of higher plex prices. As plex prices skyrocket one could only assume more and more people will drop alt accounts. Now of course this is all speculation based on personal experience and observation of a small group of people but it is not hard to imagine others doing the same thing and dropping accounts.
For me personally plex is just about at a breaking point if it goes up much higher I will not be able to maintain my play style and will have to drop my second account that would lead to me dropping both accounts as playing EVE with only one account just doesn't work for me.
Sure I could spend the RL cash and while I like EVE it isn't worth the 30 a month to me I would rather go out for a drink one more time a month then spend the money on a game.
Now again I am not well versed in economics but I am sure there is some kind of ratio someone could figure out between isk per hour and the cost of plex. As CCP tries to find ways to create isk sinks and nerf Isk faucets all while plex prices continue to inflate this assumed ratio goes up. That is a very bad thing for people who pay with plex.
I feel there will be a breaking point a bubble if you will that will burst and something is going to have to change.
Just my 2.5 cents |
polly papercut
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.26 19:24:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:
For PvE playstyles, inflation is countered by power creep. It doesn't really conform with CCP's 'anti-power creep' stance, but it's what they're doing anyway.
Except I play both styles I live in deep null so not only do I have to pay for plex I have to fund PVP as well.
While my mains are in a good size alliance SRP is only offered for official fleets with proper fc's. This is a problem when I go to chase away the people who are roaming my system. Sometimes I win sometimes I lose but those losses need to be covered by me.
Also if I just want to go and roam and get some kills on my own again this is at my expense.
So being as I have a real life and I like to game at what point do I stop borrowing time from real life to spend the extra time it now takes to cover the inflated cost of plex?
Every time plex goes up means more game time that is required to earn more isk to maintain play style and truth be told I am having to not only borrow from my real life time but also my pvp time.
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polly papercut
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.26 21:15:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:polly papercut wrote:Sure I could spend the RL cash and while I like EVE it isn't worth the 30 a month to me I would rather go out for a drink one more time a month then spend the money on a game. Sorry if you can't play for free anymore. Bye. On a side note, it would suck if the PLEX mechanic jammed because of player price speculation. Maybe CCP could consider putting a time limit on PLEXs, to prevent hoarding? I love the player driven market, but PLEX speculation may have nasty out-of-game effects.
It's not that I can't it's I choose not to. I could earn a plex in a few hours, do not be upset that you are unable to do that same and make stupid statements like Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Sorry if you can't play for free anymore. Bye.
People who are playing via plex are doing so because EVE is not worth the real world money to play. SO when these people are unable to play the game via plex and they choose not to continue to buy plex and cancel accounts, that leads to less money for CCP and that leads to CCP dev lay offs.
EVE is a good game for what it is but the reason CCP offers PLEX is to subsidize their business because without people using plex to pay for accounts you would have a lot less players and less money coming in.
If anything us players who play the game by using plex are doing more good for the game than the ones who are paying a monthly fee.
Every Month I plex an account that is $20 to your $15 or less depending on how you pay 1mo , 3 mo ect.
So it would be a very bad idea to lose out on the accounts supported by plex. But like always most EVE players are to consumed with "their game" to even listen to facts about what is going wrong in the game.
Players like you can not stand when anyone says something negative about their game so they come and make stupid remarks.
Bottom line is when plex prices become to high to be a feasible means to pay for accounts CCP will lose money.
There are guys with 50-100 accounts you can bet your ass they are plexing those accounts.
And say I do choose to play the game paying RL money I would do so paying on a yearly plan.
So let's reflect just on me alone I went from 4 accounts plexing down to 2 that used to make CCP $ 960 yearly just from me.
Now I am down to 2 accounts and I start paying $131.40 so a yearly plan for two account that is a yearly loss of $697.20 USD.
Now lets just take a hypothetical situation let's say the entire eve player base is online at this moment that is 32,227 pilots online right now and let's call that every active account in EVE and let's say 5% of those people go the route I am going they drop down to two accounts they used to plex 4 and now they are just paying a yearly $131.40 for two accounts. CCP will then lose $112,493.00 yearly . Now we all know EVE has more then 32k accounts and it is pretty safe to assume more than 5% of those people plex.
Let's take an other hypothetical situation using some real numbers for a moment.
EVE had 500,000 active subs at it's peak. no w for the hypothetical part as I could find no hard numbers on this but let's say 15% of those accounts are plexed. We come up with 75,000 accounts now let's say half of them stopped plexing and went for the $15 monthly option and we will give the benefit of the doubt that not a single person quit EVE over this CCP will still lose $187,500 a year.
Now let's not be hypothetical at all and look at http://nerdsoliloquy.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/eve-online-may-have-experienced-its.html we can also look at CCP lay offs and see a downward trend. Companies who are making profits do not lay off 20% of it's work force. Also all of the people who left CCP to go to other companies.
CCP needs plex and they need to make sure it remains a viable way for people like me to continue to make them money. |
polly papercut
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.26 22:22:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote: I disagree. EVE IS REAL AND EVE IS LIFE. If anyone has anything negative to say fact driven or not I shall defend her honor!.
I do not have to do that to prove you wrong you can see for yours self ever time you log in. That active doesn't lie.
See unlike you I research before I say ****. You just spew crap every time you hit reply.
When you grow up one day and move out of your mothers basement you will understand that at the end of the day a business needs to make money.
CCP does not give a **** about you or me they care about those numbers. And if numbers start to decline you can bet your ass they will step in to do something about it.
going uber nerdrage mode because someone made some statements other than praise about your game is not going to help this game get better. I understand that when I say something negative about EVE you take it rather personal as you live EVE and EVE if your life so as a byproduct of my insulting EVE I am directly insulting you.
I am sorry you feel that way but this is a topic about if CCP will step in to control inflation or not and we are not here to discuss your feelings.
The things I stated are my views on things that may or may not happen and cause CCP to take action.
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